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Hi Tejas, thank you very much for the post and the valuable Information from other Posts. I’d like to know, how you proceeded after passing your Fachsprachprüfung for the Gutachten Process. Like do you have to pay for something and how much time it takes.
Thank you very much.
After application of Approbation, you will be asked, if you want to opt for Gutachten or you want to apply for Exam (Gleichwertigkeitsprüfung) directly. I will try to explain the whole process in next post. But in short… you have to apply for Approbation and then you can ask for Gutachten process along with it.
You will get more information here… if you ge through all of them, one by one…
Please could you tell me whether one can apply for both Gutachten and KSP simultaneously and wait and watch.I have to speak to Berlin Ärztkammer right.
As long as I know, you’re not allowed to apply for both. If you have applied for Gutachten at first, and want to apply for the exam; you will be asked to sign a declaration, saying that you opt for exam and don’t want to submit documents for Gutachten. Your documents will not be processed for Gutachten.
I submitted the translated documents during my Termin date and I was told to submit the remaining documents I submitted the other documents and I submitted the remaining but I was not told about Gutachten .I received Eigangsbestatigung from lageso .Should I speak to Arztkammer about Gutachten .Could you please tell me.Thank you
you can ask them, but I think your approbation process will take time, and they may ask for Fachsprachprüfung before starting Gutachten. Not sure, but can be possible. You should ask Ärztekammer, better is that.
I would have to type this again here , please could you either tell me in which departments you did housejob to fill up the defizitbescheid
Dr Ghetia !
I never applied for Defizit Bescheid. I never required to apply for it.
I am not understanding your question. I think, you should read more about defizit bescheid and what it is.
Also , Dr Ghetia could you sagen mir in which departments you did housejob as a JR while in India ? Maybe this can help one with getting the deficiencies so one can successfully get approbation and gutachten! I mean could you be specific regarding the departments in which you did housejob and ‘duration’ of each department housejob you did !
Thanks in advance
I had worked as a JR in Paediatrics and internal medicine, 8 months in total.
I don’t think that anyone can answer this question, as one can answer only hypothetically! Here it is important to say, that every Gutachten is different. It is dependent upon your education and experience. But if you ask, which experience is required. Noone can answer!! Not only me, but may be nobody has any idea how everything is calculated and how a decision of Gutachten is reached. It is an internal process and I couldn’t find any proper official information about this process.
That’s why when you ask, ”which departments to choose and till what duration”, I would say…. if you can, just take the department in which you would like to work in Germany, at least the experience will help you to get a job in the same department in Germany.
Indian MBBS grads are short by 6 months als compared to their European counterparts (6yrs for them) so it would be besser if you could tell me that for 1 year as a JR(housejob) which departments to choose and till what duration , so that I can complete my deficit in MBBS and if the German state med council agrees to grant me approbation without KP !
Lastly, could you tell me how many months did it take for your gutachten to be approved/granting of approbation?
7 to 8 months after submitting Curriculum.
Thank you very much for your such a wonderful effort. I belong to Gujarat and I’ve Gujarat medical council registration as well as medical council of India registration. From which council should I get “good conduct certificate”? From both of them? or just one of them is enough? Thanking you in advance! Best of luck for your future, too!
Gujarat Medical council.
As getting ‘MCI Goodstanding certificatie’ is an headache.
You have to get their form signed through Gujarat Medical Council. And send it to MCI.
Better to get ‘Gujarat Medical Council Good Standing certificate’ directly.
Concerning your post on the Gutachen process, do you have recent information about this? Does it still work?
-You said you submitted at Bayern, does one need to pass the FSP exam before submitting this application? Or can I just apply for it from the start?
-Which states would you recommend one to try this application from?
-Can I make the application from home? Or do I have to be in Germany first?
– I think you will have to ask there. You can apply anytime!!! but they may not start the Gutachten process until you clear fsp exam.
Also, it is different in each state. Some states even offer Gutachen before FSP exam.
– Depends where you are living at present, and what do you require at present. Also if you receive a job, better to apply in that state. You have to!!
– you can apply for approbation/ Gutachten from home country. But do it, only if it required.
Hey Tejas! Thank you for the posts. Highly informative! I wanted to know the following and would be grateful if you could shed some light on the same.
– I have just completed my B2.2 course (but haven’t taken the exam cause of the pandemic). After my B2.2 exam what would be the next logical step? I am leaning towards hospitation as compared to taking a class for the Fachsprachprüfung oder die Kenntnisseprüfung.
– If Hospitation is still an option considering the pandemic, could you shed some light as to where exactly does one find the vacancies for it? I have seen some Uniklinks have it explicitly mentioned on their sites while most do not.
Thanks a ton Tejas Bhaiyya
Got my approbation following your blogs.